Comments on: Learning how to communicate http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/ Musings about Open Source, Linux, and Life by Theodore Tso Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:39:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Birger Andersson http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-1430 Birger Andersson Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:47:06 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-1430 "Update: I’ve fixed Dr. Jaaksi’s name so it is spelled correctly; my apologies for the error." Except you didn't. Still misspelled in the first paragraph. Thanks for an insightful post. “Update: I’ve fixed Dr. Jaaksi’s name so it is spelled correctly; my apologies for the error.” Except you didn’t. Still misspelled in the first paragraph.

Thanks for an insightful post.

]]> By: Don Marti http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-817 Don Marti Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:13:26 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-817 But most Linux development today happens "on the clock" and many developers get paid by companies that have a stake in proprietary software or DRM. All 5 members of the "5C Entity" have released a Linux product. IBM and Intel both have substantial DRM investments and fund Linux development. Why educate developer about something that employers could just tell them to do if necessary? But most Linux development today happens “on the clock” and many developers get paid by companies that have a stake in proprietary software or DRM. All 5 members of the “5C Entity” have released a Linux product. IBM and Intel both have substantial DRM investments and fund Linux development.

Why educate developer about something that employers could just tell them to do if necessary?

]]> By: Christopher Warner » Blog Archive » Fearless Change http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-813 Christopher Warner » Blog Archive » Fearless Change Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:24:53 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-813 [...] of one of my old professors and am a couple of chapters in. I am having what would be a communication problem, and/or am simply lacking the appropriate language to get my points across. However, it was pointed [...] [...] of one of my old professors and am a couple of chapters in. I am having what would be a communication problem, and/or am simply lacking the appropriate language to get my points across. However, it was pointed [...]

]]> By: Christopher Warner http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-811 Christopher Warner Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:27:21 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-811 This was a great insight and read. It's also a problem that seems to becoming more common in regards to the business/developer relationship or lack thereof. A majority of the current lack of communication I feel to be bred through the simple fact that this is opensource. On the one hand you have a developer scratching an itch for free on his/her own time and if they run into something they don't like; they take their build tools, ideas and go home. On the other hand you have developers willing to work with business; yet the business simply doesn't understand the business itself. Or they try to make their constraints that of the developer instead of explaining what would make it easier for X developer to extol their ideals of freedom/opensource throughout the market and solving problems by taking X appropriate steps instead of looking like hardline zealots. This was a great insight and read. It’s also a problem that seems to becoming more common in regards to the business/developer relationship or lack thereof. A majority of the current lack of communication I feel to be bred through the simple fact that this is opensource. On the one hand you have a developer scratching an itch for free on his/her own time and if they run into something they don’t like; they take their build tools, ideas and go home. On the other hand you have developers willing to work with business; yet the business simply doesn’t understand the business itself. Or they try to make their constraints that of the developer instead of explaining what would make it easier for X developer to extol their ideals of freedom/opensource throughout the market and solving problems by taking X appropriate steps instead of looking like hardline zealots.

]]> By: Jeroen Pulles http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-810 Jeroen Pulles Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:03:19 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-810 Speling error: The man's last name is Jaaksi, not Jaaski. Speling error: The man’s last name is Jaaksi, not Jaaski.

]]> By: Drizzt http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-809 Drizzt Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:16:15 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-809 Well, it seems like the "slow process" to a free mobile phone/smartphone is nearly at an end: the Neo Freerunner (formerly known as Neo1973) by OpenMoko is in production/about to ship (see [0]). Just want to add that to the discussion here. And that will be most certainly my next cell phone. It isn't more expensive as the Nokia device I posses right now. Greetings, Drizzt [0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates&oldid=34395 Well, it seems like the “slow process” to a free mobile phone/smartphone is nearly at an end: the Neo Freerunner (formerly known as Neo1973) by OpenMoko is in production/about to ship (see [0]).

Just want to add that to the discussion here. And that will be most certainly my next cell phone. It isn’t more expensive as the Nokia device I posses right now.

Greetings,
Drizzt

[0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates&oldid=34395

]]> By: igracek http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-808 igracek Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:23:05 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-808 His name is Jaaksi, not Jaaski. His name is Jaaksi, not Jaaski.

]]> By: Brian Sniffen http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-807 Brian Sniffen Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:55:27 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-807 It'll never happen. Part of the point of F/OSS is that the Man's welcome to use all this. I can imagine wanting a DRM system in my house, for example. I just want to be able to turn it off when I like. I can imagine wanting a TPM "Fritz Chip". I just want to be able to turn it off or make it lie when I want. It’ll never happen. Part of the point of F/OSS is that the Man’s welcome to use all this. I can imagine wanting a DRM system in my house, for example. I just want to be able to turn it off when I like. I can imagine wanting a TPM “Fritz Chip”. I just want to be able to turn it off or make it lie when I want.

]]> By: Tom Limoncelli http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Tom Limoncelli Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:46:23 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-806 Some day someone in the F/OSS movement will devise a way to use DRM against "the man" to protect open source software and the F/OSS movement will have a collective nervous breakdown. Some day someone in the F/OSS movement will devise a way to use DRM against “the man” to protect open source software and the F/OSS movement will have a collective nervous breakdown.

]]> By: Brian Sniffen http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/13/learning-how-to-communicate/comment-page-1/#comment-805 Brian Sniffen Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:19:20 +0000 http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/?p=147#comment-805 Wait, users prefer subsidized phones with two year lock-in contracts? Are you sure? That certainly doesn't match the evidence I've seen. The newest phone in my family, a Palm Centro, came subsidized by AT&T---because the plan was the same monthly price whether it was subsidized or not. I know of no real option for a less expensive monthly, more expensive up-front, unsubsidized phone plan. I'd love to hear about one. Wait, users prefer subsidized phones with two year lock-in contracts? Are you sure? That certainly doesn’t match the evidence I’ve seen. The newest phone in my family, a Palm Centro, came subsidized by AT&T—because the plan was the same monthly price whether it was subsidized or not. I know of no real option for a less expensive monthly, more expensive up-front, unsubsidized phone plan. I’d love to hear about one.

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